
Deepak ShuklaFounder & CEO, Pearl Lemon Group
Deepak Shukla is the ex-Deloitte consultant who backpacked, fought Muay Thai, and then bootstrapped Pearl Lemon from his mum’s house into a global, remote-first agency group. He treats discomfort as a growth tool and people as the core leverage in business, obsessing over hiring, training, and building intense, high-velocity teams.
Founder Stats
- Agencies, Marketing, SEO
- Started 2016
- $100K–$500K/mo
- 50+ team
- Italy
About Deepak Shukla
Deepak Shukla runs the Pearl Lemon Group like an ultramarathon: long, intense, and slightly insane on purpose. He went from Deloitte to backpacking, licensed fights, and British special forces selection before returning home to build a group of agencies from his mum’s house. Today he lives in rural Italy, leads a fully remote team, and treats fear of the unknown as the main bottleneck in business.
Interview
December 10, 2025
You said “getting used to doing things that scare you a little bit” helped your business. What do you mean by that?

For me, the biggest block in business is emotional, not logical. Most people know on paper what they should do, but fear of the unknown stops them. So I deliberately do things that stretch me a bit. When you get familiar with that feeling, you move faster, make bolder decisions, and business grows quicker.
How did your turbulent 20s of backpacking and fighting shape you as an entrepreneur?

In my 20s I was backpacking, fighting Muay Thai, doing licensed fights in Brazil, getting into ultramarathons, even applying to the British special forces. All of that built a high tolerance for risk and failure. When you have been punched in the face and still get up, sending a pitch email or starting a company feels less scary.
You started out at Deloitte and then walked away. What did that teach you about career and life?

I studied English literature, went into Deloitte as a management consultant and hated it. Leaving that safe path showed me two things. First, a fancy career does not guarantee you will feel alive. Second, you can reset your life in your 20s, travel, experiment, and still come back later to build something meaningful that fits you better.
How did Pearl Lemon actually start from your mum’s house?

I turned 30, had a bit of a crisis and thought, “Right, I want something more rooted.” I knew I was halfway decent at marketing and I enjoy talking to people, so I just said, “Let’s give this marketing thing a go.” I started from my mum’s place, treating it like a hustle, and two or three years later I was still going.
What was the hardest part in shifting from operator to real business owner?

For a long time I was basically a highly paid consultant. Always on calls, overstretched, stuck inside delivery. The tough part was learning to step back, build a team, and let go of doing everything myself. That transition took a couple more years and was probably the hardest phase, but it is what turned Pearl Lemon into an actual business.
Why did you build Pearl Lemon around lead generation first?

Our DNA is in lead generation because that is what we were good at from day one. If you can reliably generate leads for yourself and for clients, it opens doors. That ability then let us move into other things like an accountancy practice, a legal practice, catering and so on. Lead generation was the engine that powered all the other experiments.
You mention the war for talent. What does that look like in your world?

Once you solve acquisition, the main problem becomes people. In big firms they call it the war for talent, and I feel the same. In services it is all about humans. Even in software, it is still engineers, product managers, great operators. The better the people, the easier life gets and the more you can do with fewer, stronger team members.
Why did you stop believing in résumés?

I do not really believe in résumés anymore. People can write anything on a CV, and it does not tell you how they actually work. I care more about functional testing. Can you do the tasks we need? That is why we use forms and tests: real work samples, Loom videos, following instructions. That reveals far more than a résumé.
How has Paperform changed the way you handle hiring and operations?

Paperform became central to how we work. HR lives inside it, filtering hundreds of applications, checking who followed instructions, who added attachments or Loom videos. Then we use it for onboarding clients, collecting legal documents, getting bank PDFs for accountancy. It probably saves us around 20 hours a week across the business, which is a serious amount of time and money.
You said if software takes more than two minutes to figure out, you are out. Why so strict?

Because integration cost is real. If a tool is hard to understand, the hidden cost in training and rollout is huge. With Paperform, I could get it in under two minutes. My team can make a form on the fly. A good tool should fade into the background and not steal brainpower from the real job you are trying to do.
You have a strong view on people versus processes. Can you explain it?

People like to talk about processes, but the world is so fluid that processes keep changing. In my experience, your process lives and dies by the quality of your people. Someone really good does not need a huge process. You can just say, “Go out and promote this,” and they will figure it out. So I always prioritize great people first.
How do you personally manage risk without betting the house?

I say I have high risk tolerance, but I am also risk averse in a smart way. I never bet the house. I break a few eggs, but I still have 50 eggs in the bank. I like the idea of one-way doors versus two-way doors. Most decisions are actually reversible, so you can move faster without destroying yourself if something goes wrong.
What would you say to someone afraid to spend their first $100 on ads?

I would say, prepare properly but stop overthinking it. Watch some tutorials, research, set the campaign up carefully. Then remember it is only $100. You probably spend that on a night out with friends. You will learn more from actually running that campaign than from sitting there worrying about it for three months and doing nothing at all.
How do your physical challenges, like ultramarathons and Muay Thai, feed into your business mindset?

Things like a 200 mile ultramarathon or a Muay Thai fight teach you to lean into discomfort. You start with “Ah, screw it, why not? Can’t be that hard,” then you realise it is harder than you thought. But you also learn you can survive more than you imagined. That same muscle helps you tackle scary projects and decisions in business.
What triggered your goal to build a billion pound company by age 50?

Reading books like Good to Great and Built to Last made me think about building something bigger and lasting. Then I heard the idea that you need a vision big enough that other people’s visions can fit inside it. That clicked. If you want truly great people around you, you need a goal big enough to excite them as well.
Why move into home services and launch a cleaning company in London?

I asked, based on everything I do, which path could most realistically get to a billion. The answer was that a marketing agency probably will not, because there are very few examples. But home services like cleaning and repairs looked stronger. So we launched a cleaning company in London. We already have clients and we are winning a couple a week.
Today, where do you personally spend most of your time in the business?

Most of my time now is with HR and people. That is the biggest lever. HR spends their days in Paperform, reviewing applicants, building forms, improving our hiring funnel. I focus on getting better humans into the company and giving them space. If you solve the talent problem, almost everything else in the business gets easier and more scalable.
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