
In this interview, Anthropic co-founders Dario and Daniela Amodei address the safety and ethical dilemmas of rapid artificial intelligence development. The siblings discuss the capabilities of their new Mythos model in cyberwarfare, their decision to refuse Pentagon contracts for autonomous weapons and mass surveillance, and the potential displacement of entry-level jobs. They analyze the challenge of age-verification, the structure of Claude's Constitution, and the struggle to steer a runaway technology at the speed of trust.
Dario and Daniela Amodei are the co-founders of Anthropic, a public-benefit corporation dedicated to building safe and steerable artificial intelligence. Previously, the siblings served as key executives at OpenAI—Dario as Vice President of Research and Daniela as Vice President of Safety and Policy—before departing in 2020 to establish Anthropic in 2021. Under their joint leadership, the company has emerged as a global leader in AI safety, introducing constitutional training and the Claude model family.
July 28, 2026
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First of all, let no one ever say that Claude is soft or biased toward me, because it throws hardballs. This technology represents an epochal change for humanity, similar to fire or steam engines. While the Industrial Revolution led to powerful weapons, we understand it was worth doing, and we must manage AI in the right way.
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