
In this interview, Marc Rowan discusses the evolution of alternative investing and why private markets have become a critical part of the global economy. He shares insights on the limitations of traditional stock-and-bond portfolios, the growing role of private credit and infrastructure investments, and the future of wealth management. The conversation highlights diversification, long-term value creation, transparency, and the importance of expanding access to private market opportunities for individual investors.
Marc Rowan is the co-founder and CEO of Apollo Global Management, one of the world's largest alternative investment firms. A pioneer in private markets, he has helped drive the growth of private credit, infrastructure, and long-term investment strategies. Through his leadership, Apollo has expanded access to alternative assets while advocating for a more diversified approach to wealth management that bridges public and private markets.
September 26, 2025

Public markets are shrinking. We had 8,000 listed companies, now it’s 4,000 and falling. Ten stocks make up 40% of the S&P 500. Diversification is vanishing, and stocks and bonds are fully correlated. Passive indexing dominates, but 90% of active managers fail to beat the index. That’s not real investing anymore.

Yes. Family offices are already more than 50% private. High-net-worth clients are moving into institutional-quality private products. And retail investors will get access indirectly through asset managers. We’re heading to a world of convergence: public and private in the same portfolio, even in the same product.

Over 21 of the last 22 years, private markets outperformed public markets net of fees. Yes, fees are higher, but if they don’t produce excess returns after risk, they shouldn’t exist. As for transparency, we now provide daily NAV in many funds. Illiquidity? It’s about knowing what you can bear, not every investor needs money available on Tuesday.
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